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Poll Question: which would you say is the better? |
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| the P4 |
   5 (41%) |
| the AMD XP |
6 (50%) |
| both roughly the same for like for like chip |
1 (8%) |
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amd v p4
« Thread started on: Sep 30th, 2002, 06:57am » |
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with view of the thread on goin here i have posted this little fun poll
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #1 on: Sep 30th, 2002, 08:55am » |
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"Game over, man"  100% P4's
Seriously, IMO it depends on so many factors like: cost,cost,cost,applications,loyalty to Chip maker,ect...
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #2 on: Sep 30th, 2002, 09:05am » |
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i know what you mean, im a AMD man myself but thats because its what i like im not one to compare things in benchmark tests as i dont think they give you the information you want to know, the best way to find a chip thats for you is to test them, i went with AMD firstly for the cost and secondly i like the abilty to overclock if i want to (its much easier than a p4) and the chip suits my needs i have a athlon tbird900 not that fast but fast enough for what i want
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #3 on: Sep 30th, 2002, 09:13am » |
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Exactly, I've never owned AMD simply because the particular machine I wanted was equipped with Intel
I wouldn't hesitate to buy AMD if it was insatlled in puter I wanted! One of these days I'm thinking of building an AMD puter  Like you said trying is believeing
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #4 on: Sep 30th, 2002, 8:56pm » |
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i've always been an intel sorta guy, but one day i'd like to build an amd system for fun.
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #5 on: Oct 1st, 2002, 08:42am » |
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Straight up, im an AMD man.... got 3 Pcs in my home, both of the desktops are AMD, and the ONLY reason that my laptop is p3 is the one i found had all the features i wanted, and was QUITE affordable.... other than that, id rather it have an athlon chip in it
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #6 on: Oct 1st, 2002, 12:37pm » |
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amd all the way. p4's are great chips, but highly overpriced compared the the amd counterparts. 
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 2nd, 2002, 6:49pm » |
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the price of a P4 doesnt make it worth the lesser performance it achieves than good ole AMD..... of course, there is always the HEAT issue, but anyone who doesnt allow enuff cooling for their PC is askin for disaster, regardless of intel or AMD.....
now granted P4's MAY have a higher clock speed, but what good does that do, if a chip with a lesser clock speed KICKS ITS ASS? lol..... sorry intel, but u guys need to go back to the drawin board.... my 1ghz amd athlon kicks my buddies brand new dell p4 2.4's ass.... they just simply work harder and better with what they have.... no need for the extra 533 mhz FSB.... does JUST fine with what it has.... if it moved any qwiker, you couldnt see it....
lets take games for example...... the human eye can see 35 fps.... but people want higher and higher fps.... as long as u run at a STEADY 35 fps, u aint gonna notice anything but SKIPPED frames, because its movin faster than your eyes can see it move.... funny huh? this keeps up "people in the know" from wasting too much money..... u know my 600 mhz amd k6/2 runs quake 3 SMOOTHER than my buddies p4? u know why? because his runs so fast, that your eyes cant catch all the frames.... mine on the other hand runs it just fine....
the real advantage of higher clock speeds only really comes in handy doin things that NORMAL PC users dont even do... like LARGE mathematics algorithms like the ones used to create 3-D graphics... the faster the chip, the sooner it'll get done.... that and higher clock speeds ALSO will help out drasticaly when encoding and decooding DVD movies, do we all do that in our spare time? i think not.... faster clock speed aint gonna get that email to grandma any quicker, it aint gonna load up webpages any faster, it aint gonna play solitare any better..... it wont make your PC some god-like entity.... so honestly why waste the money? if you are doing nothing but webpages, email, word processing, stuff like that, then that OLD PC that u gave away or sold when u bought your brand new p4 would have been JUST fine, the guy at the store LIED to you, and u cheated yourself..... HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!!!!!!
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #8 on: Oct 6th, 2002, 10:17am » |
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Hey Guys...while we are yapping on about Intel and AMD (AMD is king,BTW ) I read that the Chinese have developed a chip called which is expected to emerge quite soon onto the world market and by all accounts it breathestoo. It will be interesting to see if Intel are confident enough to keep their prices as high!!
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #10 on: Nov 21st, 2002, 10:46pm » |
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AMD all the way!
I've used Intels all my life, but after being told that the P4 has bugs in it (I suppose they did fix it in later versions - I hope, for corporate sake) so I went with the AMD Athlon XP. The price was also a big factor.
I'd have to say that I'm very satisfied with it so far. I can't compare it with the P4 since I never had one - but the one I did use kept freezing, but then again, it was a school computer...  the most powerful pc in the school (video editing machine). Mine is way better for editing. I like it when a movie render processes faster then when it plays.
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #11 on: Nov 23rd, 2002, 6:21pm » |
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I would have to say AMD.
I used Intel machines, but then switched to the AMD Duron 900 and now am at the Athlon XP 1700+ and it's probably the best I've ever used. As for P4s, I've used them and the most I get out of them is hardware lockups.
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #12 on: Nov 23rd, 2002, 7:35pm » |
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i said both the same because it is not the chip but the bus speed that is important.
and the location of the computer that depends on the heat and cooling issues.
i have been able to work with both of the amd and pent bands and the amd is a very hot chip but so can the pents be if in the wrong area.
like in tx. with out any ac in the house.
the cooling is a tricky thing also because of the location of the computer. and the design of the towers.
go and read the posts on reds' pc411 fourm he did for the pc cooling that is where i posted my reply on cooling.
if you were at pc911 and remember my way of cooling i posted there. please remember i am at a different computer now. and have been taking care of 7 computers and each one is different for the needs.
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #13 on: Nov 23rd, 2002, 7:50pm » |
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I run mine at 1.2GHz and it's very fast. I can put it at 1.7 which is the factory setting, but I'm satisfied with 1.2 and 60 degrees compared to 1.7 and like 75 degrees. lol It's nice to wake up to a boiler room though. When I'll do the final render at a high quality for my movie, I'll probably crank it up to 1.7 before starting. That's another nice thing with the AMD chips - very easy to overclock!
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Re: amd v p4
« Reply #14 on: Dec 10th, 2002, 08:04am » |
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i love these kind of threads  , only bad thing is amd never does what a pentium can, they always say they can but when it comes down to proving it its all talk and no show. For instance i have 3 puters, 1 p3 1.0 512 megs pc133 , 1 amd thunderjet 1.0 512 megs pc133, 1 p4 2.0 256 megs pc266. I was downloading movies from the internet and putting them on cdroms to playback for my girls and the amd wouldnt even play them without skipping and just stopping half the time and the p3 played them like noones business, ya both have win xp pro and 64 meg ati video cards, both ata100, 1 20 gig maxtor and 1 30 gig maxtor. thats just 1 example i have many more. not to mention i would like to see a athalon 900 try to compare to my p4 2.0 like someone posted earlier. intel rules ALLEN
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